Dutch police deaf for screams torture murder. Fine example from the boys in blue!

[Fusion]

The reputation of Dutch police isn't that great at the moment, called for only doing jobs that fill the government treasury, when no direct danger is at hand (speeding tickets, parking tickets, fining old ladies for loitering, etc). But what has happened a month in Rotterdam, shakes the very foundation of this nation. From all over the country, reactions range from disbelief to pure rage for the inaction of two police officers who were at the scene of the crime, stood by and did nothing for 30 minutes, waiting for backup, until it was too late.

I just HAD to translate this, so that something like this is heard in every corner of the planet and never EVER forgotten!

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6...ord.html?p=4,1

Police deaf for screams torture murder

PERNIS - A 28 year old Rotterdam citizen was tortured to death in an apartment in the city of Pernis, while two alerted and armed police officers outside waited for nearly half an hour, hearing the screams, but refused to act.

When the police duo afterwards with the arrived backup finally charged the apartment, the screams from telephone worker Björn Jue were pretty much silenced. The Rotterdam citizen died not much later by his severe injuries.

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This astounding change of events, confirmed by the justice department in Rotterdam, unfolded in the night of Friday the 15th and Saturday the 16th of june in the Rotterdam city county Pernis. "At that time, the two policemen decided that due to safety reasons, they would wait for backup from their colleagues, said a spokesmen from the Justice Department. "The backup had to come from Rotterdam, which took 20 to 25 minutes."

Had direct intervention been taken by the two cops, Björn Jue would've been likely to survive. The man was trapped with no possibility to escape. He was captured in a settlement at the Pastoriedijk by Wouter A. (25) and his friend Jevvrey van S. They tied their victim on a chair whilst torturing him in cold blood, after which Jue screamed out for help.

Next door neighbors woke up by the constant death screams. They immediately grabbed the phone to alarm the police. "In five minutes, two police officers were at the scene", says one witness. "But they just stood there and did nothing. The officers, the whole street was crowded. Everyone heard the horrific screams, but no one - not even the two policemen - lifted a finger"

The justice department says they see no reason at the moment to have the
police detectives (red: department that investigates the actions of the police at calamities) do any research on the matter. Yesterday, a 3rd suspect, a 24 year old citizen of Rotterdam, was arrested on suspicion of involvement with the murder.

Update 13.56:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6...rd_Pernis.html

Police detective department has confirmed an investigation about the murder of the 28 year old citizen of Pernis (Rotterdam).
[...]
The spokesmen informs that its custom that police officers discuss with headquarters before action is taken. "It can not be that officers charge the building immediately. Their own safety is also at stake."

For your information, at the website of the Dutch police, it says about them:

http://www.politie.nl/Haaglanden/Ove...Resultaten.asp

Task of the police force

"In the law its written that the police must care for "Maintaining justice and aid those in need of help"

Edit: But there is more

http://www.ad.nl/rotterdam/voorneput...cle1486156.ece

Jue was visiting them at June 15th, when all of a sudden they tied him up and tortured him until death was imminent. The ex-girlfriend of Wouter A. says this week in Actueel Magazine, that the murder was inspired by the movie Hostel 2 - a movie that Wouter A. saw with Magda a week earlier. After seeing the movie, A. said to Magda that he could imagine the thrill of the tortures displayed in the movie.

[Gatling]

Yeah total madness.

It's like firefighters that need to get permission to extinguish a burning house.

[Fury]

thats entirely disgusting...

[Leo]

Regulations like waiting for reinforcements are absolutely no excuse here, sanity and reason should have told these policemen what to do.

[Fusion]

If you have an account, Digg it please. I want this to make the global headlines, in stead of being hushed up like they've been trying to do for a month now.

[Jezza101]

I agree that the police have to look after their own safety. But then when you read that there were two of them and they were armed its hard to understand why they failed to act.

Contrast with the Glaswegian holiday maker and (unarmed?) policeman who dived on top of a terrorist in Scotland this week.

However, I place blame firmly on the freaks who carried out such a horrific attack. Im not massively pro censorship but I do wonder if society has a place for the likes of Hostel etc. Yep we all know such films dont turn us normal folk into killers. But then sadly not everyone is normal...

[Big_Ted]

Coming to a city near you Soon!

[Dr.Maniacal]

What amazes me is that not only did the police stand there, but this:

The officers, the whole street was crowded. Everyone heard the horrific screams, but no one - not even the two policemen - lifted a finger"

Now I've heard of cases in large cities where there were 'no witnesses' to murders that took place in broad daylight, but it appalls me that not even the locals standing around were willing to break down the door and intervene if the police did not. (It disgusts me even more that the police didn't just deputize the lot of them and go in en masse.) But it does remind me of the video with the water buffalo rescuing one of their own - even in large groups, they were cowardly, and were very reluctant to charge the lions.

As for the role the movie played ... because the thread is going to go that way eventually ... this was a sick act by sick people, and the film was probably just the trigger. Anything might have set them off eventually. But that doesn't mean that sadistic and sociopathic practices should be enshrined in popular entertainment. I don't deny the right of film-makers to produce the stories they want to produce, but at the same time, I think it's worthwhile for any artist, of any kind, to consider what they are doing, and what the consequences might be. There is a world of difference between The Producers and Springtime for Hitler.

[A_Spec]

Originally Posted by Dr.Maniacal

Now I've heard of cases in large cities where there were 'no witnesses' to murders that took place in broad daylight, but it appalls me that not even the locals standing around were willing to break down the door and intervene if the police did not. (It disgusts me even more that the police didn't just deputize the lot of them and go in en masse.)

It's what people do, they think that someone else will make the first move.

[Fury]

tis basic psychology.

noone wants to be the first person to help, in case they help the wrong person, or they seem too out of normality.

belief in a just world dictates that most peoples reaction to a crime, any crime, will be that the victim deserved it. its horrible, its stupid, and sat here behind our computer screens we can think that in those situations we would be the first ones to move, but in all actuality we wouldnt.

police however are supposed to be trained to protect and serve beyond the line of normality, to be the first ones to help when noone else will. the fact that two armed police officers stood by and did nothing is what disgusts me, everyone else is just playing by their own inbuilt instincts and mental devices.

[UltraMarine]

Originally Posted by Fury

..belief in a just world dictates that most peoples reaction to a crime, any crime, will be that the victim deserved it...

I would've said that most peoples reactions are directly opposite to what you said i.e. that most victims of crime don't deserve it.

[Fury]

Originally Posted by UltraMarine

I would've said that most peoples reactions are directly opposite to what you said i.e. that most victims of crime don't deserve it.

you would think that wouldnt you. but no in fact it isnt true, hundreds of studies have proven it.

we would love to think that we would side with the victim. the same as we would love to think that we would help any way we could.

however what we would love to think and what is true is very different.

its times like this when i actualy hate having learned psychology, and some of the truth of the human mind...

[UltraMarine]

Originally Posted by Fury

you would think that wouldnt you. but no in fact it isnt true, hundreds of studies have proven it.

we would love to think that we would side with the victim. the same as we would love to think that we would help any way we could.

however what we would love to think and what is true is very different.

its times like this when i actualy hate having learned psychology, and some of the truth of the human mind...

Well I'm sorry I don't believe you (in so far as thinking victims deserved their crimes). I know I don't think that and I know that most of the people I know wouldn't think that - it sounds ridiculous to even say it.

Who believes an old lady deserves to be mugged? Who thinks that a schoolgirl deserves to be raped? Who thinks a lady pushing her new born in a pushchair deserves to be run down by drunk driver?

Say what you want but I just don't accept what you saying.

[Dr.Maniacal]

Therein (hopefully) lies the difference between "people" and you.

[Leo]

Originally Posted by UltraMarine

Say what you want but I just don't accept what you saying.

I'm also of different opinion. I just know (or at least I hope so ) that very few people would think like that. Moreover, I don't believe that this situation (a crowd in front of this building) is particularly about psychology and single minds (in a sort, of course, but not mainly), but about society, peer pressure, moral courage and especially socialisation. Unfortunately this makes it difficult to blame the mass of people there for their behaviour, even if it sounds strange. (I was obliged to write this, regarding my field of study that competes a bit with psychology )